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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If they are outside the US, actively in contest with it in some kind of zero-sum game, then I don’t have too much to say that’s upset with them.

If they are outside the US and angry about its imperialism, I think they have yet to learn that the US doesn’t have a monopoly on it, and some of the other brands are somehow even worse. But the temporary or permanent collapse of the US might still be a good thing for them, depending.

If they are in the US, and edgelording, then fuck ‘em. I don’t exactly wish on them what’s in store, but there is a certain grim anticipation, I guess, of the day they start to learn about the reality of what they’ve been talking about.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If they are in the US, and edgelording, then fuck ‘em. I don’t exactly wish on them what’s in store, but there is a certain grim anticipation, I guess, of the day they start to learn about the reality of what they’ve been talking about.

I think of it this way - I have sympathy for every innocent victim that fascism is about to claim, and I would oppose it even if it only hurt shitheads.

... but I have absolutely no sympathy for them. I oppose fascism's damage to the innocent because fascism is bad and innocents don't deserve it. I oppose fascism's damage to the useful idiots only because fascism is bad.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're victims too. They had so much propaganda, and so much bad education, and so many legitimate grievances about a government that since the 1990s at least has mostly forgotten about them.

I try to be kind in my thinking. They might attack and someone might have to defend against them. They might get attacked by the same system they supported in the beginning. A lot of them are going to get hurt, some of them very badly. None of that is good, even a little bit. Some of it "has to happen" and some will just happen because it happens. But I don't hold any of it against them nearly as much as I do against the people at the top that engineered this whole thing on purpose, with full awareness.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 1 day ago

Well... if it makes you feel better, they'll get punished, too. I think most of those people are unknowingly living within a very cushy society which has been set up and maintained for them, which is nearing its end, to be replaced by one much more difficult and dangerous.