Bernie Sanders won 3 out of 5 primaries that occurred before the DNC called it for Biden in 2020 with Buttigeg picking up 1 other. In 2016 Sanders won 23 races and was at 43% of the popular vote despite extreme pushback by the DNC. He was democratically supported cause he had people voting for him. Democratically.

And sure but with some of the worst polling numbers Biden, did not need to or should have thought he had incumbent advantage. Mud had a better approval rating.

And the change was from that and a protest vote of 100,000 voters voting against Biden in a primary that had no other option that's was being ignored until the rich donors realized the polling wasnt gonna get better after the debate proved he was not fit for office.

There was time but the argument was made that it would be difficult and all the donations already made could be immediately given to Harris as she was already on the ticket, thus letting the money flow (which the DNC outspent Trump 2:1)

They got what they wanted which was a younger centrist willing to do Biden-esque policy without question that they thought would be easy with identity politics and being "not Trump" which is viewed as the main issue and not what issues he represents as a fix for.
Mostly being a willingness to change from status quo.

Which is exactly what hasn't been allowed in races as shown before.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Bernie Sanders won 3 out of 5 primaries that occurred before the DNC called it for Biden in 2020 with Buttigeg picking up 1 other.

I'm not sure how to parse what you're saying. As far as DNC rules are concerned, they "call" it once all primary races are held.

In 2016 Sanders won 23 races and was at 43% of the popular vote despite extreme pushback by the DNC. He was democratically supported cause he had people voting for him. Democratically.

The Democratic primary uses proportional representation, so candidates don't win states, they win delegates. Hillary Clinton got 55% of the popular vote, Bernie Sanders got 43%. There are no two ways to slice it, Bernie lost that election by the rules of a democratic election by a sizeable margin. Meanwhile, Hillary was dealing with getting hacked and Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi. And you're forgetting the often adoring coverage that was played to audiences on the left about Sanders.

The selling point for Kamala wasn't anything in particular about her. She's the VP and was the only obvious choice. There was no appetite for a contested convention, which was the alternative. It was always going to be an uphill battle, so in a sense she's also a sacrificial lamb.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how to parse what you're saying. As far as DNC rules are concerned, they "call" it once all primary races are held.

I believe it means that you weren't paying attention during the 2020 primaries or the news around them then. The DNC Does not wait and did not. Claiming Biden the Presumptive nominee 38 days after the first delegate picked. Obama took 120 days. To give you an idea of how fast that was, faster than Trump's nomination in 2020.

You are correct though. The primary eventually went the way it went. He lost it by the rules but there is a reason people don't feel good about the rules presented and that needs to be dealt with.

I would also just want to finish with the simple, how is pointing out how popular his rallies were be a negative to his electability while being an usurper to someone in social and legal discourse?

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

So based on your 38 days, that would be March 12th (2020-02-03 + 38 days), no? And Biden was indeed declared the winner on a March 12th, but that was in 2024. It took until April 8, 2020 for Bernie to decide to drop out.