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[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I voted so I'm sure you won't mind hearing from this leftist. The problem isn't people who didn't vote. The problem is how the Democrats ran their campaign. They continue to punch left to try to appeal to moderate right-wingers who will never vote for them!

Instead, they should have punched right and tried to appeal to their base on the left. Even the "scary far left people" like me.

How to do that? They should have come out against the genocide in Israel instead of sicking the police on the fucking protesters.

But sure blame random individuals and what they chose to do. That sure sounds like The first step in fixing a large structural problem. /s

Not that it matters anyway, we won't be voting again not for real anyway.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

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[–] Frigid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So you think a left leaning voter would vote for the Republican because the Democrat shifted to the right? That makes absolutely zero sense. The Republican would still be more to the right.

[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

No, I'm not saying that.

I'm seeing a lot of left-wing. People will not turn out to vote if they don't like the candidate. What really determines elections in the US or what did was election turn out. If turnout is high times when if turnout is low Republicans win. Turn out as low when Democratic candidate sucks and tries to appeal to right-wingers. Like we saw this election.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They are saying that Dems licked R boots and they lost a percent of their vote as a result. They kept trying to cater to the moderate republican when they should have catered to the nonvoting leftist.

I literally argued with Dems on Lemmy about how everyone needs to vote and we need to be advocating for greater voting access. I was called stupid for this, because obviously nonvoters will never vote and they must cater to the moderate Republicans who already vote because they know they will be there. I was told obviously Dems shouldn't care about making sure everyone has the right to vote and voting access.

It's legitimately bizarre to hear people say these talking points as if they help the Dems. They just advocate for fascism (taking away the right to vote) and get fascism (Trump). Well, duh.

I even quoted civil rights speeches amd Lyndon B Johnson to show them how this rhetoric is divisive. We are just at borderline civil war tensions and everyone is doing badly at being a whole community.