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[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 8 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

So your argument is that she got 14 million less votes than Joe specifically because she's a woman? Because I struggle to see how it could be the "deciding factor" otherwise.

[–] Bacano@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, it's an oversimplification. The Democratic party has become the party of 'going back to business as usual' and refuses to lower it's commitment to the corporations that fund it. Trump won 2016 because he was a genuine establishment shaker.

Leftists need a rouge candidate who refuses to bow. Someone who shows promise of CHANGE and not business as usual.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Leftists need a rouge candidate who refuses to bow. Someone who shows promise of CHANGE and not business as usual.

Democrats have proven that they will sue to strip such a person from the ballot. How can they claim to defend democracy while hiding behind First-past-the-post voting?

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 1 points 1 hour ago

Because first past the post voting is a form of democracy, whether or not either of us have qualms with it. What is not democratic, in any way, shape, or form, is disrupting the peaceful transfer of power, which Trump has literally done, not to mention the intended destruction of the federal system under project 2025, which based on your response, I can tell you've done no research into.

Are the parties both bad? Sure. Is one objectively and provably better for the democratic institutions of the US? Abso-fucking-lutely.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yes. That is their argument. Because most men of alll races, and even most white women favored him. He got less votes than 2020, and won the popular, got a trifecta.