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[–] anas@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, and that’s being very fair, it does end with “allowing involuntary servitude as a punishment for crime” and a case could be made for confusing wording.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

This is the ballot text, it's not really confusing at all.

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[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I especially enjoy it losing with literally no opponents and no arguments against.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Right?

Fucking right?

[–] turddle@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The Arguments section is unfortunately left out on actual ballots. I could see a lot of the less research-inclined citizens interpret that as simple community service and not straight up indentured servitude.

Unfortunately, most things can be attributed to stupidity rather than malice. Had they put the word slavery on the ballots I’d hope we’d see a better split

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone gets a booklet with all the analysis and arguments in it, weeks before the election. There is very little that could have been done to make this more clear. At some point it's just reprehensible. We don't look back at chattel slavery and hem and haw about education. Neither should we do so here.

[–] turddle@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I’m aware. That’s why I say the less inclined. Gotta ask ourselves how many are actually reading the booklet or even taking more than 5 seconds to process the ballot blurb.

Google is also right at everyone’s fingertips yet misinformation is still prevalent everywhere. Some people are just stupid.

Unfortunately, there are lots of them.

[–] anas@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Oh wow, that’s actually explained very well. Fair enough, y’all just want slavery I guess lol

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I think it's really just an obvious proof of the complete and total lack of reading comprehension that most citizens have here.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

But only as a punishment for a crime. Like the new felony theft of a toothbrush from the other proposition we have definitely passed. (Made what was previously misdemeanor theft into felony theft, and yes we still have a 3 strikes law to imprison you for life.)

California is not some progressive bastion. It's a conservative state that doesn't bother the LGBTQ community.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 3 points 10 hours ago

I keep telling people I think it'll flip in our lifetime. Too many kids growing up without the faintest idea of how wealthy they are in the bay (and the valley/NorCal are conservative anyway). Unearned wealth directly leads to conservatives for a lot of people