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8 years after Hillary Clinton lost to Trump, Kamala Harris managed to (probably) do it again by recycling Clinton's failed strategy of courting Republicans and out-hawking Trump amidst a Democratic-sponsored genocide she refused to budge on.

The stupidity is almost unbelievable until you remember imperialism always comes first, even if it means losing.


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[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Come on now, if she openly spoke out against Israel, she would've lost more votes that she wouldn't have gained. Everyone knows that with Kamala, the chance of a ceasefire would be wayyy better than with Trump.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago

I don't know much about US politics, but sounds to me it is lies thay people don't want.

They don't like Trump for things he says, but because he is telling it openly. And than other side comes and starts PR and avoiding telling the real plan, which is known to everyone.

When I saw Kamala enetering the race I was certain elections are done and she is the next US president. But they learned nothing and have done everything possible to not be elected. To me, outsider from europe, it looks like this is all on democratic party.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

15 million people didn't show up for Harris who did show up for Biden. There's no way clearly stating she was against genocide would have cost her more votes than that. Maybe not all of them sat it out because of Israel's genocide, but I bet plenty of them did... Especially because of the bullshit on campuses... If she had gotten out there and stood firmly with young people protesting, they'd have stood with her.

[–] Lawdoggo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the right take. There are a fuckton of wealthy, influential people in the pro-Israel camp and to turn against Israel in an election would be political suicide. Netanyahu created a perfect wedge issue for a Trump victory by continuing down the warpath.

[–] Not_mikey 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  1. The pro Israel money was already going to trump. Fucking Miriam adelson alone gave him $100 million

  2. Even though the Israel lobby is huge it's not dominant on a national stage. Sure Aipac can take out some first term reps with a couple million dollars but they are dwarfed by the amount of money going into the presidential election. If anyone can take on the Israel lobby it's the presidential candidate with a war chest the size of a small countries gdp.