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This is why I won't do anything of the sort. With the increasingly authoritarian state that Amurica is turning into, I will tread very carefully. Including using VPN. I don't know much about Tor and perhaps I should learn more but my understanding is the traffic is largely plain text and not encrypted. Please correct me if I am wrong.
It’s encrypted, encrypted many times over, it’s completely anonymous… as long as you’re staying inside the network. An exit node connects to the regular internet and that’s what’s going to start showing up on logs. This was completely secure for the people actually dealing in cp.
I can’t believe this stuck, it’s the equivalent of arresting a business owner because someone distributed cp while connected to their Wi-Fi.
CP laws (in the US and probably other places) fall under a doctrine called strict liability, which basically means that you're guilty regardless of intent or even knowledge of an offense.
It's fucked.
Yet isps aren't affected
There isn't a crime worse than hurting children. Does that mean we should allow law enforcement infinity leeway to punish these crimes and persue the offenders? I hate to ever give law enforcement any leeway as abuse is so common, but if someone is hurting children I don't care how you stop it.
Is hosting a tor exit nods with the knowledge that doing so might help pedophiles hurting children? That feels like too many layers to me. Too esoteric.
Is this satire? Because that's exactly the excuse government has been giving for hundreds of years, to take your freedoms away.
It's never about the children. The Catholic church operating with near total immunity, after all these millennia of abuse, is proof of that.
You're right and I agree completely. My ACAB hat slips when they bring up kinds. Which is, of course, their intent.
Every person and business that has any wifi or server on the internet "might help pedophiles hurting children". Amazon S3? Could hypothetically be used in CP (actually almost definitely is used for CP by somebody).
Your email address? Could be used by somebody malicious for CP. Which means if you think it's that important to stop pedophiles hurting children, you should shut it down.
And in fact, Lemmy is decentralized and can absolutely be used (let's be honest, somebody probably already is somewhere) to distribute CP. We should be openly opposing Lemmy now, right?
...boiling down to the real problem. There are so many uses for Tor that have nothing to do with CP and so few Tor users that deal in CP. Privacy is a valuable thing and we should not be murdering privacy for all people in hope it might stop 1 or 2% of child predators.