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What shows have you grown out of, or has society grown out of? Were they popular in their time? Were they not so much? Why do you feel like they've aged? I'll leave mine below

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[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 46 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Pretty much any cop shows.

Monk, NCIS, whatever. They've got so many narratives that are basically: it's ok for cops to ignore laws so they can get the bad guy. Somebody else in the thread mentioned Frasier for the misogyny, and that reminded me there's also an episode where the dad talks about being proud of lying on the stand to put someone in jail.

[–] vala@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

You might enjoy "The Wire".

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

You ever noticed who the real bad guys in cop shows are? It's not drug dealers it's not serial killers it's not violent gangs, no it's usually the internal affairs guy or some fictional prosecutor or other politician who has it out for "good" cops.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A typical cop show has this abuse of authority and rights in the service of justice, to serve and protect. There’s usually a clear cut good vs bad, and the “good guy” is ok to act badly because I guess “the ends justifies the means”.

In real life there is rarely a clear cut good vs bad, and we read all too many news articles about abuses of authority and excessive violence that are just not in the service of justice, not to serve and protect, and make us suspect those bad apples of being the real bad guys.

In real life, checks and balances are everything. In real life, the best chance of fairness, of justice, is when everyone follows the rules, everyone is provided due process, no one is above the law

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

When I was in flight school still living with my parents, they went on this huge crime procedural bend. Chief among them was The Closer, which is pure copaganda.

I wrote an SNL parody episode of it. I'll post it if three people request it.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh a warrant?! We don't have time, he's the bad guy and we need to get in there now! If you hold up the process DA then you're responsible!

Gullible viewers: "Yeah! Stupid DA, holding up the perfect bold cops by... respecting the 4th amendment"

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

I'm not a fan of cops, but I do like the occasional cop show. I think it's the portrayal of idealized actions. Bad cops get punished, only bad guys get shot, innocent people aren't held in questioning until they confess just to leave, most don't show casual use of excessive force, etc.