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[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 216 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

And the study was even proven wrong in the 17th century. A finite amount of monkeys already produced Shakespeare in a finite amount of time; it took roughly 55 million years.

Source: Primates show up in the fossil records, dating to roughly 55mill years. And Shakespeare's complete works were most likely completed by William Shakespeare, a famous decendant of said primates.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 25 points 1 week ago (9 children)
[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

If baboons and macaques are monkeys, and if howlermonkeys and spidermonkeys are monkeys, humans MUST be monkeys.

Because they can ONLY both be monkeys if their common ancestor was also a monkey and we share that very same common ancestor. In fact we are closer related to macaques and baboons than to spidermonkeys, which means we share a more recent common ancestor with old world monkeys than both us and the other old world monkeys share with the new world monkeys.

Cladistically, you can not outgrow your ancestry.

Humans are apes, apes are a subgroup of monkeys, monkeys are a subgroub of primates.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Monkeys are specifically non-ape simians.

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