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"Translation: all the times Tesla has vowed that all of its vehicles would soon be capable of fully driving themselves may have been a convenient act of salesmanship that ultimately turned out not to be true."

Another way to say that, is Tesla scammed all of their customers, since you know, everyone saw this coming...

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[–] Atom@lemmy.world 143 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (43 children)

First, let me clarify I bought my Tesla used, before Musk went full fascist, and autopilot came free. The car was updated to the newest hardware for free, since the original FSD equipment couldn't do it either.

That out of the way, FSD sucks, and it's getting worse, not better. When if first come out of beta it was okay. I remember describing it as driving with a teenager, they got the general idea, but would make bad decisions so you had to watch them. Years of updates later and it's practically unusable to me. It tries to go way under or over the speed limit, it hesitates or slams on the brakes for green lights. It slams on the brakes for cars that pull out with plenty of gap but doesn't even notice the risky merges. It can not seem to navigate intersections anymore, damn near stopping in the middle of a turn. It actually just updated yesterday and I tried it again, it took me less than 5 miles to disable it again. It is, in my opinion, a hazard to use. I talked to my partner about it and we both agree it didn't used to be this bad.

Anyway, the stupidest part of all this, is they changed it so it's either full self driving all the time or not. You want cruise while you're in traffic because you know it'll try to cut in front of someone? Silly idiot, no you don't. So you now have to have a second profile* for cruise control and lane keep without FSD. And the odd thing is that lane keep and cruise are fine. They function like FSD used to. They can drive the highway with no problem and trust me, I do not have much faith in the car so I'm watching it close. It can't navigate city streets, but neither can FSD....

TLDR, my car was a better deal for me than Tesla. After years of FSD access, it's bad and getting worse, not better. I can't believe people pay 5 figures for it and maybe that's why they feel the need to clip perfect drives or defend it.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

they changed it so it's either full self driving all the time or not

No they didn't...you can still activate regular adaptive cruise control without any of the FSD nonsense.

[–] Atom@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yes, I said that....

So you now have to have a second profile* for cruise control and lane keep without FSD.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

No you don't need a second profile for that, you can just pull down once on the right stalk to enable regular adaptive CC with lane keep instead of twice for FSD. This second profile requirement is complete nonsense.

The "pull once for FSD" that removes the regular adaptive CC is a voluntary option in the settings, you can just disable that. If you have that enabled and don't like it, that's your fault not theirs.

[–] Atom@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

You are not correct. There are several forum posts complaining about this issue. One of which is linked below.

You can disable it on your profile, but to switch back and forth you have to stop the car, place it in park, switch to FSD, accept the agreements, re-apply all your personal settings for traffic lights and such. At this point, the double or single pull activation greys out and you are stuck with single pull, all or nothing FSD. When the car screws up and you don't want FSD anymore, you must again navigate to the autopilot menu and disable it.

Or, like me, you can do this once in a safe location, save a second profile for FSD and switch immediately with two clicks from memory.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/fsd-12-5-4-no-longer-allows-double-click-to-start.334535/

[–] slumberlust@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is there a reason you are so defensive?

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

I just find misinformation really annoying. Like, There's loads of reasons to hate on Tesla and Elon Musk, there is no need to make up stuff that isn't true, it just takes away from the actual lies and issues and drown out valid criticism.

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