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[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

depends where the borders currently are at, when it freezes

[–] superkret@feddit.org -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

look, when it freezes and russia gained land, it's like a win for them. it will encourage them to rearm and start over or attack another country, then freeze again. over and over. some people are assholes and you can't have peace with them, because of them, not you. they will always start a war again, if they don't have to fear being destroyed or at least lose a bit of their territory.

i understand you want the killing to stop and it's good and where we should be heading, but there hasn't been a single day in more than 5000 years without an armed conflict and we just don't know how much before that, because there's not much recorded. humans are not there yet. the asshole to peaceful ratio is not in our favor.

the vast majority of russians likes this war. as long as they do, there will be no peace. every ceasefire will be broken by them. for them to stop, they must be destroyed. it's like Germany back in WW2. Germany had to be beaten and destroyed to become a normal, non-aggresive nation. it sucks, but this is how humans are at the moment.