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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This was the plan all along. This has always been the end game. I have seen no major movements in our government to prevent this

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is why it's important to vote in record numbers no matter where people live. Kamala needs to win in a landslide in as many places as possible to leave no doubt that these polls were bogus. Otherwise we could end up with contested election results all over the country. edit: typos

[–] Lemming421@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You’re missing MAGA logic though. If Harris wins in a landslide, that’s further proof that the results were tampered with, because clearly not that many people actually voted for her…

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Following that strategy we would be giving the election away to Trump. A small deviation from the polls in Kamala's favor would be more suspect than a large one, because it would be easier to fake. We cannot win over MAGA Republicans in this narrow time window, they will say the election is rigged even if Trump wins. For most people, seeing Kamala win in a landslide would be proof the polls got it wrong.

[–] Lemming421@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh, sorry, don’t misunderstand - obviously a crushing defeat in the popular vote is the best outcome.

I’m just saying they have a plan for a narrow loss and a plan for getting the shit kicked out of them.

I’m just saying they have a plan for a narrow loss and a plan for getting the shit kicked out of them.

No, your argument is mistaking nonsense and lying no matter what as a plan. The way we win is by them getting the shit kicked out of them in the election count results. It makes MAGA Republicans sound absurd when they try to say millions of votes were faked. The majority of people know that's ridiculous because we all live in reality. Making the MAGA movement look like clowns when they inevitably make their false claims is how we win.

To put it another way, we don't need to win over MAGA loyalists, we need to win over everyone else. The smaller the margin of the victory for Kamala, the more credible the MAGA movement's claims seem. They will make the same claims no matter the actual results. That's not logic, that's additional evidence that the MAGA movement is a cult. So we need to pull the rug out from under the MAGA movement with a landslide victory for Kamala by voting in record numbers.

It's not a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's a case of making it clear that the inevitable lie from MAGA is in fact a lie.