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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

all they have to do is point out that they don't live in a swing state and that's it, there's nothing else to say, they just made a strong case and you have no rebuttal

lol

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

There's tons to say.

Well, not tons, but a solid-ass rebuttal.

Those states do matter. They only "don't matter" because everybody in them has historically done and is predicted to do a certain thing. If enough people learn of that prediction, become unmotivated, and don't do that thing anymore, then those states become swing states which could swing the other way. It's not guaranteed to always be the way it's been.

"Blue state" and "red state" aren't unchanging aspects of the geography, they're the actions of individuals as seen from an aerial view.

Strongholds fall, and the commanders who act like theirs never could have a way of not writing history.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Strongholds fall, and the commanders who act like theirs never could have a way of not writing history.

And yet, this logic doesn't apply to unseating the existing parties, for some reason. If Illinois could eventually turn red, then it follows that it could eventually turn green. In either case, it's just a matter of "enough people" changing their behavior.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

New parties have to get big at local levels first before shooting for the stars

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