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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Biden tried just slowing weapon shipments earlier on and Rs and some Ds rammed a bill through saying nope, no slowdowns on these shipments allowed.

When you have a racist right-wing party, and a right-wing party that supports killing innocents, I am not as enthused to vote as I would be if there were a clear choice between them.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Wow, stoned people really do say ridiculous things.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You said there is no clear choice between. A party that supports killing innocents and racism. And a party that supports killing innocents. It’s not hard math.

[–] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there more dead on the Gaza side? What's the math of that?

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, if both are killing innocents, but one is killing innocents on top of being racist, it's pretty obvious that the racist one is worse. A kindergartener could check that math.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's interesting how you have to resort to being dismissive when I say that I don't like seeing innocents killed.

You say you're voting for 'harm reduction'. But, factually, supporting Israel is increasing harm, not reducing it. You might be upset with me because you're rationalising painful reality.

I have no choice, due to autism, but to accept reality for what it is. And it's not nice, because living in a world where it is politically expedient to support killing innocent people sucks. I want nothing to do with it, and I would swap with someone in Palestine so that I could die, instead.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are both shit. Don't support or vote criminals.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That’s what this entire post is about. You’re accomplishing jack shit by not voting.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wrong, supporting criminals with blood on their hands is evil and make things worst. If the red and blue party start to lose votes they have to go in damage mode and actually change their policies to get their votes back. As long as people support and vote for them they don't really have to change anything, they cycle in power.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is WHAT THE POST IS ABOUT. Putting Trump in office to try to influence the Dems is incredibly stupid and we’ve been responding to this tripe ALL YEAR already. Trump will be worse on Palestine, Ukraine, actively seek to harm LGBT people as well as Central/Southern American immigrants, and be much worse on tons of issues like labor laws, financial regulations, the environment, on and on. So, no. What you’re proposing is a naive and clueless idea.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The only naive and clueless idea is supporting your government while its fueling a genocide where kids are being murdered daily

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you read, at all? What you’re saying is the precise stupid shit that this post is about and I’ve already pointed out that almost always, people sharing that viewpoint simply say something stupid and insulting about genocide and miss the entire point. So good job. I’m not going to bother to repeat it, but I’ll point out that claiming people are “supporting their government” by voting is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard lately.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

By voting a party you are supporting them. By advocating others to vote for it you are supporting them even more. If a party is already in charge as the government and you vote for them or encourage others to do so you are supporting the government.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I really don’t get why some people have a hard time understanding how this all works. For an office like President, you don’t get your favorite choice. Period. You have to vote for the candidate who can actually win and best reflects your views and values. Jesus Christ. I can’t possibly be fucked to explain this again.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

For an office like President, you don’t get your favorite choice. Period.

Don't spread propaganda. You can vote for anyone you want who is in the ballots.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s more like a racist right-wing party that supports killing innocents, and a right-wing party that supports killing innocents.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

You're right, I just thought "racist" implied "supports killing", as I am aware of the history and practice of racism.