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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's cool, so am I - that's not the only thing that's on the ballot, though, and you can try to justify it as "Well, I'm not voting for anyone", but this is very much a "If you aren't voting against Trump, you're voting for him, directly or indirectly" situation.

It's cool, though - I'm sure everyone will understand. You couldn't do the bare minimum to prevent an authoritarian takeover because you felt very strongly about one issue. Nevermind that your actions actually made that issue's outcome worse for the people you purport to care about. We'll all overlook that.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

AKA:

“Why are you hitting that screw with a hammer?”

“I refuse to use a screwdriver; it takes too long and I’m morally opposed to patents that you get with screwdriver heads.”

“You do know that your hammering is going to make a total mess of things, rIght?”

“I don’t care; it’s the principled stance I’m willing to take to build this house.”

[–] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Claims to have a principled opposition to screwdriver head patents: buys screws anyway.

Sounds like the Democrats to me. All "I'm the anti-genocide candidate!" while shipping cluster bombs to the middle east.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s possible for both to be correct. You can’t fix the US government by voting third party for President, because the system isn’t set up to support that. First you have to deal with the electoral college and FTTP voting, then the laws on the books, which means electing third party representatives who are willing to support changing the laws.

And on the other hand, the President can at least call out what Congress is doing that’s enabling genocide in the middle east instead of politely asking for both sides to stop killing each other so everyone can talk, while representing the people sending weapons to one side of the conflict, who are taking advantage of their position in government to methodically wipe out an entire people.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

And on the other hand, the President can at least call out what Congress is doing that’s enabling genocide in the middle east

I was told that no one can because AIPAC.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for saying this.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

AKA: whatever this tedious bullshit is.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you felt very strongly about one issue

Yes, I feel very strongly about innocent lives.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Given that, I expect you'll be voting for the 'less bad' candidate, rather than wasting your vote on a protest candidate which only assists the 'more bad' candidate in winning, then?

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, I will not be voting. If I were to be able to vote, I would prefer a candidate who works to stop innocent people from being killed, rather than condone it happening. I find that quite an important moral issue.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you'd be just as happy with Donald "Do what you have to do" Trump as with Harris, you can't feel too strongly about innocent lives.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You can't go from an "if" to a "you" accusatory statement so well when that "if" isn't true.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

If the 'If' isn't true, then the 'you' doesn't apply to you, that's how conditionals work.