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What did people do with the extra time they got from working less? In short, the answer is, they relaxed.

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[–] jlou@mastodon.social -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Democracy is the idea that positive control rights over an organization should be assigned to the party governed in or by that organization. This concept is applicable in an economic context. For example, the workers in a firm are governed by management, so democracy implies that the managers be ultimately accountable to the entire body of workers in that firm making the firm a worker co-op.

Capitalism has workers do 100% of the work, but employers receive 100% of the whole product

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[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You mean a cooperative? Those already exist. No need for "democratic economy".

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The problem with capitalism is the non-cooperative firms that exist. A democratic economy is an economy where all firms are mandated to be worker cooperatives

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[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cooperatives operate on equal votes, not equity, which is a potential problem in itself. Equal votes over who has the bigger stake. Liberal economics is better. Trying to impose a system instead of simply giving economic agents the freedom, and make suggestions themselves on how best to form and run business. Equality isn't a economic good.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

The arguments for worker coops are based on liberal economics (https://www.ellerman.org/inalienable-rights-part-i-the-basic-argument/). To summarize, the workers are jointly de facto responsible for using up inputs to produce outputs, so by the norm that legal and de facto responsibility should match, they should be assigned the whole product of the firm. Anything else would be unjust.

Equal votes doesn't mean equal pay. Workers can divide the pie however they prefer. In existing worker coops, not everyone gets paid the same.

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