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A new poll suggests that Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein is drawing more voters from former President Donald Trump than from Vice President Kamala Harris.

According to a Noble Predictive Insights survey released last week, Harris holds a narrow lead over Trump in a hypothetical three-way race. With Stein on the ballot, Harris' lead expands, pointing to a potential spoiler effect similar to what many Democrats blamed Stein for doing to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

For Trump, the emergence of Stein as a potential spoiler may be a critical factor in battleground states, where even a small shift in votes could determine the outcome. For Harris, Stein's candidacy could paradoxically provide an unexpected advantage, drawing votes from Trump and narrowing his pathway to victory.

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[–] spongebue@lemmy.world -2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Regardless of outcome, you're playing with fire in our current voting system. Even if a few states did actually elect a third party, you could see no candidate reach 270 electoral votes and then it goes to the even more arcane vote done in the house of representatives (which each state gets a vote)

A very blue district in Hawaii sent a Republican (Charles Djou) to Washington in a special election with less than half the vote, because the two Democrats in the race refused to back down. If there were a ranked choice or other voting system than "plurality takes all", he wouldn't have won

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Oh geez, really tightening up the narrative now. 3rd party voting in non-swing states is getting demonized.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Cripes. My point was our current system means your vote for the perfect candidate can put the candidate you disagree with most into office when one with much closer views to yours could have been elected instead. It has happened, and in a place where it really shouldn't have.

That system should be changed for that reason, and until it is you should be very aware of unintended consequences of that vote.

[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 minutes ago

So now that you've identified the problem I can only hope you're actively building grassroots support to replace the current system instead of just posting online about how people should vote blue no matter what, right?