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It's a graph. It doesnt interpret itself. It doesnt really do anything on its own.
it can only support your position if you could prove your counterfactual, which you cannot.
Well, if you look at the graphs last three points, it goes up from the first to the second much higher than it does from the second to the third.
Should I just assume there was a production problem that caused the reduction?
What's caused that very minor decrease in the rate?
i am not an expert on global agricultural markets, but my suspicion is drought, followed by a global (human) pandemic, but i don't know if those actually caused it even if you could prove they (both) happened. you can also see a significant drop in the 90s correlating with mad cow disease. there it's easy to say "we destroyed a bunch of cattle instead of slaughtering them" but that's not exactly reducing suffering. i seem to recall similar stories during the pandemic.
i highly doubt we could draw a causal link between buying beans and either of those dips, though.
They were after the pandemic, theres a big dropoff during covid but I didnt want to use it because obviously the causes weren't regulation or vegans.
I was mainly pointing out that its possible for the rate of increase to decrease, although I understand I can't prove its from a change in demand.
If there isnt proof for any of the solutions we've talked about why shouldn't I just do all of them?
I would choose one that is provably effective. actually rescuing animals tangibly saves them from the agricultural system. everything else I can think of is the equivalent of hopes and prayers.
Well not seeing the result personally isnt exactly the same as hopes and prayers but I do see why thats at least reasonable.