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submitted 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) by arscynic to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
 

If one chats/mails with a person using Windows, despite using secure private protocols, every message will be stored by Microsoft's Windoze Recall. Either I'm missing something but this feature seems like the most grotesque breach in online privacy/security.

What are ways to avoid this except for using obfuscated text?

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

To my knowledge, there isn’t. But you can ask the person to turn off recall. I’m going to be running 11 in a VM myself so /me shrugs

[–] galileopie@lemmy.ml 8 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The code for Recall is in the code for File Manger. Recall cannot be turned off if you want Windows to load and function.

[–] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

That's just the off button. But you can't remove it because they tied it to explorer as a depenacy. Off or not, explorer doesn't work with out recall.

Turning it off is a good step 1, but what's stopping some malicious software, such as every windows update, from turning it back on and selling our data for profit.

[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Also, whats stopping the feature from continuing to run in the background while just not displaying any user-facing controls? If its part of file explorer you wouldnt even see it in the task manager list of current applications.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

I’m guessing being able to turn it off and not change during an update is a business grade feature. I’m guessing at least windows 11 pro will come with a permanent off switch

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

There's literally an option to turn it off

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 8 hours ago

like all the privacy toggles on facebook? or the "dont upload my start menu searches to bing pretty please" group policy on windows that doesn't fucking work anymore?