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“He’s doing a good job,” Trump saidabout the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that Netanyahu decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

So I see you’re concerned about the mathematical flaws of First past the post voting and the spoiler effect that comes along with it.

Did you know that alternative electoral systems exist? Ones where there isn’t a spoiler effect even. I feel like most democrats, like yourself, understand these faults quite well.

So why are you mad about people who want to vote outside the two party system? Shouldn’t your anger be better directed at the two legacy poltical parties that protect this flawed voting system?

We all understand that republicans like First Past The Post voting. They are moving to protect FPTP voting in states they control. However, democrats say they support democracy. So can you tell me why they continue to use FPTP voting in the majority of states they control?

It’s not like this is a new issue. Its not like the democratic party just found out about the spoiler effect that comes with First Past The Post voting. Democrats have been quick to point out the flaws of our voting system longer then I’ve been alive.

Again, if the democrats are so informed of the flaws of the voting system, why does it persist in the vast majority of blue states? Who is preventing this reform? It’s not the republicans… they aren’t in power in these states. In a two party system, that would leave only one political party responsible for this spoiler effect.

The democrats.

They have sat on their hands for countless decades, understanding the problem yet doing nothing to resolve the issue.

So you see, you should be mad at the democratic party for putting their party over the needs of the people. Not the people who want to vote a certain way.

It’s unreasonable to blame those unrepresented in government for what is. This is what we voted for… again… and again… and again. Over and over. This is the result.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Cool. Do you have a way to implement RCV nationwide in the next two weeks? Because otherwise there are exactly two people with any chance of winning this election.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

irrelevant - everyone knows and agrees. that doesn’t change that this election you have exactly 1 choice

politics is shit. until you have other options, you have to live in the world you live in and not a fantasy