this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2024
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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I've suggested a rule in the past, but we don't have this rule now.
Communities should not be overly moderated in order to enforce a specific narrative. Respectful disagreement should be allowed in a smaller proportion to the established narrative.
i.e. A user should be able to (respectfully, infrequently) post/comment about a study showing marijuana is a gateway drug to !marijuana without moderation tools being used to censor that content.
There are times people wouldn't like it, but it'd fully solve this !linuxsucks issue.
Agreed. That's exactly what is killing Reddit. They ban/permaban so many people just for disagreeing with them.
Can you imagine ml or hexbear adopting this rule though? I think it depends on the type of community. If it's a "safe space" type community then I think it's fine to keep out the dissenters. Eg I often remove right wing comments in lefty memes because it's supposed to be a space for memes, not people shouting at each other. Likewise, if someone starts ranting about the evils of piracy in c/piracy then they are getting a community ban. But a US politics community has to be tolerant of alternate viewpoints, because of the nature of the community. That's why it took a while to ban linkerbaan. He wasn't banned for his politics though, more because of the way he treated other users in such a hostile way all the time, even people who mostly agreed with him.
Wouldn't it be great? But yes, it's antithetical to those instances, which are fully intended as propaganda.
My hope is that the best ideas can handle a little dissent, while the ideas that fully rely on memes and echo chambers get deflated.
I've seen what happens when moderation enforces an echo chamber. It's so much easier to believe a narrative when it's the only one we hear. It's the entire premise of reading fiction. We're primed to believe the story goes as the author says, whether it's fiction or non-fiction. Timed correctly, it doesn't take a huge opposing narrative to trigger us to think about it more.
Yeah, I didn't know who he was until recently. I was falsely accused of being an alt of him a few times. They would just reply with "linkerbaan." But I thought it was some Swedish word for "ban" and they were saying I should be banned. lmao
After looking him up today, I see that he would go way overboard on the attacks. So I don't even see how anyone would compare him to me.
Even seeing that, I don't think he should have got banned from whole instance, seems to me community bans would be enough, but I'm sure he'll just alt up and come back on anyway. He seems, um, determined. lol