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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Xml also used to be a tech hype for a bit.

Wha... What?

I'm trying to imagine a news anchor hyping about XM-fucking-L and I'm drawing a complete blank, is this a zen riddle

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It didn't jump out of tech media containment, so it wasn't a mainstream hype thing, more a techworker hype thing. It was the data serialization standard which would save the web! Second life otoh, did massively jump containment.

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’ve always seen XML as much more of a tech executive thing — here’s the language that’ll run your entire business but is also incredibly easy to create proprietary semantics with, ensuring you can’t be ousted without taking the company down with you! it looks like absolute shit and it’s painful to type! buy in now!

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know someone who was hired (around turn of the century) because they knew how to xml with a certain kind of then-important big systems api

the stories I’ve heard from there are hilarious

but is also incredibly ease to create proprietary semantics with

christ the shit I’ve seen with network vendors…. shibboleth NETCONF/YANG. advance warning; abyss grade 6+

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And yet there are some tasks I wish I could do in NETCONF instead of the thing we're actually using, but apparently the documentation for this interface is difficult and expensive for the company to get my hands on, for reasons.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ikwym, that’s part of the set of crimes I was pointing to

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago

XML works fine for what it is, it's just a bit verbose. Not sure it'd be my first choice for a new thing, but it's not a toxic waste dump if you're allowed to do it properly.