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[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 10 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

An anonymous hit job that reads like it was written by Ehmke. We should give this any credence because…?

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 28 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

An anonymous hit job

it's literally his own words all the way down here. if it's a "hit job" it's entirely Stallman's own fault for being a freak with morally abhorrent takes. one of the first things mentioned here is that he had to retract the position that "voluntarily pedophilia" doesn't harm children (a category of person he defines as anyone under about 13)! any reasonable person would find this abhorrent and Stallman a horrible person for ever having defended said position in the first place, because it is genuinely abhorrent to defend something like that. that's just child abuse.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Not defending pedophiles, but there was a time when 13 was considered adult. It’s still legal for teenagers to marry in most countries.

Anything can be taken out of context.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not defending pedophiles, but

you are about to defend pedophilia. rethink this and stop talking.

there was a time when 13 was considered adult.

and? Stallman is not talking about a previous time at any point here. also: that previous time was bad anyways. why would we want to--especially with respect to age of consent--go back to considering 13-year olds and younger to be adults? they cannot meaningfully consent to sexual relations with adults; it's just child abuse. all of this is why Stallman's words are abhorrent.

It’s still legal for teenagers to marry in most countries.

Stallman is not talking about teenagers. he explicitly distinguishes children (again, people <13 for him) from teenagers (people 13-17).

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 3 weeks ago

you are about to defend pedophilia. rethink this and stop talking.

Wise words to live by.

[–] Whom@beehaw.org 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You're free to look at the context that they frequently link to, it doesn't help. His political notes that contain the majority of his public musings are typically very brief and the quotes used typically replicate the entirety of the original text or cut off changes of subject.

Stallman is very clear in his beliefs.

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