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[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Thank you for your reply. I don't think we disagree that much, but I'm afraid we may be miscommunicating a bit.

What determines "biological sex"?

Chromosomes? Except someone with Androgen Insensitivity may have XY chromosomes, but physically appear to be female.

Genitalia? But we have intersex people with ambiguous genitalia

Testosterone? Caster Semanya

Full disclosure: this seems more your field than mine. I don't think I'm educating you, just trying to clarify my point. It seems like you're arguing against "There's no such thing as assigned gender at birth". What I'm saying that there is no objective way to categorize all humans into neat little sex boxes. Biological sex is a spectrum with most people either at the "male" point or the "female" point, but some examples everywhere in between.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No disagreement here.

I believe most of the medicinal/health stuff would is assumed to be chromosome based, but I don't think there's been a ton of research into whether it's truly something genetics based from the chromosomes or from the long term effects of different hormone balances on someone's body over the course of their life.

Given how relatively new a lot of these dysphoria treatments are, I think we'll probably be learning a lot about where the differences actually come from in a generation or two as we see this stuff become more common.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 points 3 days ago

When it comes to sports there really is not any question any more. Again, I'm not a physician, but any given sports body can determine what a trans woman needs to do to compete on a level playing field with cis women.

This is best evidenced by the lack of trans women superstars. Despite the Daily Wire's recent magnum opus, trans women compete and lose all the time in women's sports, it's only the transphobes who have a problem with them ~~competing~~ at all.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Its always this same argument. Did you know that more than 99% of people do in fact fit into neat little boxes. One cannot base their entire argument on the outliers of a dataset thats just bad science.

Sure u can have a spectrum but thats not really relevent for a majority of people situations or cases. Same as u have the spectrum of how many fingers people have thats a spectrum somewhere bwtween 0 and infinity but calling a gloves manufacturer Philangaphobic for not accommodating people is ridiculous.

At some point we need to decide where we draw the boxes and most likly some people won't qualify for either box so perhaps they can have their own. Ive been called transphobic for saying the trans should simply be lumped in with the disabled (for change room and bathroom purposes) i dont see how this is the case it just seems like a practical solution given the relative population distribution and well established infrastructure.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Lol. Can't imagine why someone would call you transphobic for "lump in the trans with the disabled". LMAO.

I regret being so polite earlier. ✌🏾

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Whata wrong with that ur not implying its insulting to be grouped with the differently abled arw you?

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

For the record, check the usernames, lol. That wasn't me.