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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The GOP is the "drill baby drill" party though.

The Green Party is not going to win. The only message that voting for Jill Stein will send to the Democratic party is they need to move more to the center to get more reliable voters. It's already heppening. Harris doesn't like fracking but she's not going to ban it and she has to talk about increase US oil production to get votes from people she knows will turn up and won't flake out and vote green or be uncommitted or whatever.

If she wins she will be more inclined to fulfill promises made to the people who actually voted for her. Sure she'll need to represent everyone, but there'll be far more people that voted GOP she'll need to represent (and entice to maybe vote for her in the next election) than green party voters.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think that Hillary Clinton showed us the opposite. If the Democratic candidate goes too close to the center, they risk losing the left, and they deserve to lose the left at that point. If the Democrats had tried to put a halfway decent strategy together about Israel, there would be zero worry about a third party. And I don't like single issue voters, but if I had to pick a single issue, genocide would be at the top of the list.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

"Genocide is a single issue" is basically "I've tuned out the screaming so how can you hear it?"

Back in 2004 when we bombed countries it was considered murder and bad. Bush then normalized it with "You just love 9/11, commie!", Obama continued it, Trump expanded it, and now Biden helped to normalize it.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

If the Democrats conform to Iranian disinformation campaigns about Israel, how would they be any different from Republicans that conform to Russian disinformation campaigns about Ukraine?

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Voting isn't public so how the hell does everyone keep assuming we know who voted for her at the election?

The people that didn't vote for her didn't vote for her.
You can't claim she didn't get the trump republican voters so it's an indicator she needs to move to the left, right? Or Libertarian party?

Its weird false logic based on feelings about justifying a truly tiny group of people voting green as villians. the main base of Kamalas voters should also be Democrats who shouldn't pander and frack just cause she needed an extra 2% at the polls. We are gonna shift further right for that and more Republicans instead of going for any undecided first?

I don't get it. Make the logic make sense.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

I'm not saying people that vote green are villains. They're just ignorant of how things work and act irrationally because of their ignorance.