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The Vote Socialist campaign stands unequivocally with the Palestinian people as they stand strong in the face of one year of US-Israeli genocide in Gaza. (lemmy.ml)

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For decades, we have been in the streets in defense of the Palestinian people, and will continue to fight until the total liberation of Palestine!

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[–] boywar3@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sigh... we both know this isn't going anywhere. Neither of us will give in because both of us feel strongly about our positions and will not budge on them because of our feelings that we are doing the right thing (and no amount of saying I support genociders will change that).

Anything you say that's less than Russia totally pulling out of Ukraine I can easily say is supporting genocidal dictators in the same way you say voting for the Democrats is supporting genocidal regimes and we can keep going back and forth ad nauseum, so I'll save us both the trouble.

Just remember, the average American is wildly less socially conscious than you'd like to believe, though the fact that so many poor factory workers are anti-union should make that somewhat self-evident. Whatever you plan to do better be a bit more compelling than just talking about Muslims a world away to the decidedly closed-minded rural population of Middle America.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Sigh... we both know this isn't going anywhere. Neither of us will give in because both of us feel strongly about our positions and will not budge on them because of our feelings that we are doing the right thing (and no amount of saying I support genociders will change that).

No, this is not a principled disagreement. You have repeatedly had to deflect, ignore, and mischaracterize to dance around challenging points. I do not care about the "strength" or your beliefs, though it is clearly flimsy given this insecure behavior.

Anything you say that's less than Russia totally pulling out of Ukraine I can easily say is supporting genocidal dictators

Please refer to what I've already said about Russia and reply to it if you'd like to discuss that topic. I am not interested in discussing or defending your imagination.

Just remember, the average American is wildly less socially conscious than you'd like to believe

Oh? How socially conscious do I believe the average American is? When have we ever talked about anything like that whatsoever?

Ah, right, we haven't.

I guess we have reached a point where you will offer nothing more than straw men and patting yourself on the back. I hope that you someday have the courage of your "convictions" and can engage in good faith, especially when it comes to topics like support for genocide.