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Benjamin Netanyahu has warned Lebanese people that they could face “destruction and suffering” like the Palestinians in Gaza if they don’t “free” the country from Hezbollah.

“You have an opportunity to save Lebanon before it falls into the abyss of a long war that will lead to destruction and suffering like we see in Gaza,” the Israeli prime minister said in a video address directed to the people of Lebanon.

"I say to you, the people of Lebanon: Free your country from Hezbollah so that this war can end."

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[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They always claim Hezbollah is terrorist, but surely the IDF have a larger civilian kill count and a larger percentage of civilians killed.

Israel feeling pretty confident there is zero consequences to their actions now.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is what I don't get... Hezbollah has seats in Lebanon's parliament. How is it any different than Likud? Aside from the whole, "not being actively genocidal" thing. Should we compare civilian casualties between the two groups?

Why are we only cool with democracy (and "spreading" it) when they vote for the people we like?

Edit: well, I stand corrected. Here is an article today showing Hezbollah committing literal war crimes today... Oh no wait. Hold on a second, that was actually the IDF:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/10/israeli-forces-fire-on-un-peacekeepers-in-lebanon-wounding-two

So at what point do they become "terrorists"? Or are we just having a pointless semantic argument at this point?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Likud doesn't maintain a separate army under their own flag.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/10/israeli-forces-fire-on-un-peacekeepers-in-lebanon-wounding-two

Literal terrorism. Literal war crimes. This just happened.

Even worse than a militant group, this is state-sponsored. Which is, of course, what legitimizes it in your sick minds. That's the difference between "defending ourselves" and, "commiting horrific acts of terrorism." Some intangible concept of legitimaticy that apparently gives carte blanche to commit genocide.

I could be wrong, but I cannot ever recall seeing any articles about Hezbollah (or even Hamas for that matter) attacking humanitarian aid convoys. And I mean ever. And yet this isn't even the second, or third time I've seen Israel do it in one year.

Not many things are black and white in this world...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes they do, it's called the IDF and literally every citizen has to serve and receive "conditioning" that dehumanizes Arabs.

Since I know you're going to balk at that (doesn't change the fact that it is an accurate comparison)... Then how about Israeli settlers (AKA Jewish people from Brooklyn) in the West Bank invading Palestinian villages with AR-15s and forcing them from their ancestral homes at gunpoint? Murdering men, women, and children for some property they have zero claim to. Is that close enough for you?

No, you're right, it's not. Because Hezbollah isn't an invading force.

I'm tired of people acting like these parties don't have militant arms directly because of Israel's actions. Intentional, I might add. They know they're creating more "terrorists."

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only sane comment in this entire post.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

So what's the functional difference? Why does that matter? Should we compare civilian casualties of the IDF vs. Hezbollah and the Lebanese Army combined? Because it's still not even close.

Doesn't seem like anyone who replied to me has any interest in comparing these types of statistics. They never are. I wonder why that is...

Seems a bit telling. Hezbollah, a literal terrorist organization; It should be a trivial exercise to compare civilian casualties. Why wouldn't any IDF defenders want to have this conversation? "Most moral military in the world," I thought? Should be no problem.