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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

the mozilla PR campaign to convince everyone that advertising is the lifeblood of commerce and that this is perfectly fine and good (and that everyone should just accept their viewpoint) continues

We need to stare it straight in the eyes and try to fix it

try, you say? and what's your plan for when you fail, but you've lost all your values in service of the attempt?

For this, we owe our community an apology for not engaging and communicating our vision effectively. Mozilla is only Mozilla if we share our thinking, engage people along the way, and incorporate that feedback into our efforts to help reform the ecosystem.

are you fucking kidding me? "we can only be who we are if we maybe sorta listen to you while we keep doing what we wanted to do"? seriously?

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How do we ensure that privacy is not a privilege of the few but a fundamental right available to everyone? These are significant and enduring questions that have no single answer. But, for right now on the internet of today, a big part of the answer is online advertising.

How do we ensure that traffic safety is not a privilege of the few but a fundamental right available to everyone? A big part of the answer is drunk driving.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago

How do we prevent huge segments of the world from being priced out of access through paywalls?

Based Mozilla. Abolish landlords. Obliterate the commodity form. Full luxury gay communism now.

[–] maol@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

What a pisstake. Shit I don't want to use palemoon, are there any other browsers???

[–] self@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the purestrain corporate non-apology that is “we should have communicated our vision effectively” when your entire community is telling you in no uncertain terms to give up on that vision because it’s a terrible idea nobody wants

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago

"it's a failure in our messaging that we didn't tell you about the thing you'd hate in advance. if we were any good we would've gotten out ahead of it (and made you think it's something else)"

and the thing is, that's probably exactly the lesson they're going to be learning from this :|