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[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (6 children)

If only I lived in a swing state. Then my vote could have meaning and I could get paid for it.

Must be great to live in one of the seven states that's allowed to decide our election thanks to the electoral college.

[–] Xyre@lemmus.org 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

State and local elections still matter outside of the electoral college!

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I'm aware. I already participate in those.

Doesn't change the fact that my vote regarding the highest office in the country is a pointless effort.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, so you vote this year, get others to vote, and then spend the next 4 years working to overturn the electoral college and get ranked choice voting implemented. If you truly care, that's where you'll direct that passion.

Stay focused.

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

If you truly care, that’s where you’ll direct that passion.

Here's a question: are you doing all of that yourself?

It just sounds to me like you're attempting to say that people shouldn't care or shouldn't be frustrated if they're not willing to spend every waking minute of their lives working towards change. And yes, while change does take time and effort, asking average citizens to go above and beyond doing their civic duty of voting is a bit much.

This genuinely sounds like usual Republican rhetoric of "if you cared so much it wouldn't be this way."

[–] CuriousRefugee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, swing states are where it's at. From Nate Silver's forecast, the states most likely to tip the election (as of today, Oct 9).

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I live in the Philly suburbs and it's disturbing how many Trump signs I see in my area. I really really fucking hope he doesn't win this state.

[–] dubious@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's up to you guys stop stop your neighbors from voting (as well as cast your own ballots). i would use any tool in the bag. this could be the end of the world if he wins. i don't feel like that's an exaggeration.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've already mailed in my ballot. Not sure what you're suggesting in terms of stopping my neighbors from voting but that sounds highly illegal.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Show me one law that explicitly states it's illegal to build a 10ft wide moat around my neighbor's house

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Presumably that qualifies as vandalism unless you own 10 feet of property in a ring around his house, which is an uncommon situation. Depending on the wording it might also qualify as attempted kidnapping or unlawful imprisonment or something along those lines.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just looked up the vandalism laws in my state and I didn't see the sentence "building a most around your neighbor's house is illegal" anywhere, so I think I'm in the clear

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, if you owned that 10' ring of property, sure. Presumably digging out 10' of public Street or 10' of his yard against his will would fall under vandalism though.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

I feel like you haven't studied the pivotal case law Timberwolves v. Air Bud which clearly sets the precedent that any omission that isn't clearly and explicitly stated is inherently considered condoned by law.

[–] Astronauticaldb@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I mean, you can vote and still get paid; I don't live in a swing state but I got a whopping $0.17 for my efforts! It's moreso about getting a voting plan together.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If only I lived in a swing state. Then my vote could have meaning

You presumably live in a state where you are firmly in the minority party? Otherwise you very definitely don't wish you were in a swing state.

To put it simply, swing states are just the biggest states that are purple enough that you can't safely predict what will happen. States like Texas or California going purple would immediately make them the most important swing state by far.

The GOP is terrified Texas might become a swing state. If through some strange alchemy California were to become a swing state it would be an existential threat to the Democrats.

[–] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I fucking WISH we would go at least deep purple. Ive been seeing "Cats for Kamala" and "Harris Walz 2024" all over the place, and while it makes me happy, I also have to remember that I live in a very blue city in Texas. Im worried about all the rural people who are literally afraid of society.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

So you do live in a state where you are firmly in the minority party, and thus the state going purple can only benefit your party. Imagine you with your current politics moved to California, would you want it to become a purple state?

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Funny isn't it. 95% of Americans are effectively disenfranchised but nobody gives a fuck.