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The Movement for Settlement in Southern Lebanon said the settlement of the area will bring 'true and stable security to northern Israel'

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The only thing being pointed out there is that the settler group Uri Tzafon is not directly associated with the Israeli government. The article posted here doesn't say that they are.

Sure, this fringe group may be taking advantage of Israel's incursion into Lebanon for their own purposes, but the fact that the Israeli government doesn't say "Hey, cut that shit out," is telling. I would further expect that when "settlers" (occupiers) decide to take up residence in another country and then rightfully get kicked the fuck out of that country by force, that the Israeli government/military might then protect them in Lebanon. All while still saying "Oh, they're not at all affiliated with the Israeli government!"

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

this fringe group may be taking advantage of Israel's incursion into Lebanon for their own purposes, but the fact that the Israeli government doesn't say "Hey, cut that shit out," is telling

It sure is. It’s telling the exact same story the West Bank has seen play out for decades now.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

settler group Uri Tzafon is not directly associated with the Israeli governmen

Isn't that way we call them settlers?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For me settling is primarily about stealing land. I'm not so concerned about the "legal status" of that theft under the thieves' regime.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My point was that settlers are technically not considered Israeli.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They’re definitely Israelis. Are they agents of the government? Well this is a little subtler than you might think. No they are not on government payroll. Yes they hang on their government’s week to week, mile by mile policy posture toward settlement and constantly take as much as they can get away with without alienating that government. It’s such a tight relationship that yes, you should effectively hold the government responsible for their behavior.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It seems I am wrong. I thought certain settler groups weren't Israeli citizens to begin with.