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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

what Mozilla is working towards here is probably the best case scenario for a legislated solution in the US's economy.

No thank you, I don't want an ad company dictating legislation. Even if it wasn't in bed with Facebook, I wouldn't want that.

[–] d0ntpan1c@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it were up to me, ads wouldn't be legal but we live in this society and it has an economy that won't ever get there without sweeping change.

Ad companies do and will continue dictating legislation in the US, so I'm not sure why Mozilla now being an ad company and the parent foundation historically being involved in privacy law and lobbying for privacy measures matters to you so much. Its not like the Mozilla foundation has been that radical historically anyway.

All this mozilla hate just further divides the people wanting something better. We domt all have to agree on what better vs best vs perfect is if were all pushing in the direction of better for now.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't believe I need to explain this (and I kind of already have), but you should never put any corporation on a pedestal just because they are proffering the second worst option instead of the very worst.

Ad companies do and will continue dictating legislation in the US

And we shouldn't normalize it.

Normally, I would mention Facebook driving the way Firefox ads function, but you seem to have no issue with Facebook or even Google being in an incestuous relationship to various degrees with Mozilla, I guess that's not even a point you'll care about.

All this mozilla hate just further divides the people wanting something better.

People say this about Mr. Beast and his repulsive children's snacks and chocolate bars, which he says are a healthy alternative to the very worst options. Or Elon Musk and his electric atrocities. I would be aghast if the government handed monopoly political power over to either of those people.

And yet here you are, insinuating the government should legislate monopoly power over advertisements and simply hand the reigns over to the corporate interests that want to maximize profits at any cost.

[–] d0ntpan1c@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And yet here you are, insinuating the government should legislate monopoly power over advertisements and simply hand the reigns over to the corporate interests that want to maximize profits at any cost.

I have no idea where you got this idea I'm advocating for an adtech monopoly.

~~You continue to put words in my mouth and come at this thread with aggression and demanding statements. You dont just get to demand a debate, and you certinally aren't going to sway someone's opinion by putting someone on the defense, putting words in their mouth, and attacking character right out the gate~~. Edit: apologies, someone else was doing the more aggressive responses. Difficult to keep track of this stuff on mobile sometimes.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I have no idea where you got this idea I'm advocating for an adtech monopoly.

Explanation here

You continue to put words in my mouth

Are you sure about that