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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thats why leftist unity consistently fails, still better then "libertarian" unity

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was explaining what the Libertarian Party wanted to my daughter and she said she didn't understand why anyone would want a country like that. I told her that virtually no one else does either, which is why Libertarians almost never get elected.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They want a lot of horrible things and a lot of good things. Obviously the capitalist parts are disgusting but at least they dont support genocide (which sadly in this year is extremely rare).

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They support a genocide of the poor. One that involves letting them starve to death due to the total lack of social services.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Thats to be expected in American politics, I was referring to the fact that at least that dont support the military or funding Israel. Also genocide of the poor is entirely the fault of capitalism and you cant vote that away.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"As long as they don't support the genocide I care about, the genocide they would allow to happen because capitalism is fine." Gotcha. You do realize that their idea of capitalism where that happens is only what they want, hence my point.

Very few other people are saying there should be absolutely zero social services and near zero taxation. Just them. That is just death to the poor.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I never said I support capitalism, I said that I despise imperalism and militarism. Also have we not seen death to the poor under Liberalism, those social services are a band aid solution to the gaping wound that is capitalism. Ideally I would like to see a Libertarian-Socialist party get elected (or even better an Anarcho-Syndicalist revolution) but sadly those aren't options yet.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the members of the Libertarian party. Because that's what they stand for. Elimination of almost all social services and taxes. Which would literally kill countless poor people. It would absolutely be genocidal. It's just not the genocide that concerns you apparently.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

7,877 homeless people died in the US during 2020 source

Meanwhile over 34,904 Palestinians have been killed since Oct 7, over 1.1 million Palestinians are facing IPC Phase 5 catastrophic food insecurity, and over 1.7 million people have been displaced source

How many millions of people have died and how many tens of millions of people have been killed by imperalism and war just over the course of the last two decades alone? Do you have no problem with it because those people are far away or do you have no problem because its the global south?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Was the Libertarian Party in charge in 2020? No.

Are homeless people the only sort of poor people who need assistance? No.

So what the hell does this have to do with the Libertarian genocide of the poor that would happen if they were in power?

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Im saying does homeless genocide suck, absolutely. But even you have to acknowledge that the wars and genocides brought on by imperalism are significantly worse. The only difference is one is further away and in places you dont think about. At the end of the day I would rather we have neither but that won't be achieved until capitalism is destroyed.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, again, I get that you think one genocide is more important than another.

To me, genocide is genocide.

And, again, we're talking about a hypothetical scenario.