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If you already know Docker CLI, is there a reason to use Portainer? (lemmy.zip)

submitted 1 month ago by MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I often see people mention the Portainer project and how it's useful, but I never hear any reason to use it other than as a more user friendly front end to service management.

So is there any particular feature or reason to use portainer over docker's CLI? Or is it simply a method of convenience?

This isn't only strictly for self hosting, but I figure people here would know better.

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[–] heyixen815@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can just connect a (local) Git repo to it and store your compose files over there. There should be even an auto-sync (if you’re into that kind of thing).

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Not the point. If you want to interact with the compose files directly through the command line they're all squirelled away in a deep nest of folders, and Portainer throws a hissy fit when you touch them. Dockge has no such issues, it's quite happy for you to switch back and forth between command line and GUI interaction as you see fit.

It's both intensely frustrating whenever it comes up as an issue directly, and speaks to a problem with Portainer's underlying philosophy.

Dockge was built as a tool to help you; it understands that it's role is to be useful, and to get the fuck out of the way when its not being useful.

Portainer was built as a product. It wants to take over your entire environment and make you completely dependent on it. It never wants you to interact with your stacks through any other means and it gets very upset if you do.

I used Portainer for years, both in my homelab and in production environments. Trust me, I've tried to work around its shortcomings, but there's no good solution to a program like Portainer other than not using it.