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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

(Another post so soon? Another post so soon.)

"Gen AI competes with its training data, exhibit 1,764":

exhibit 1764

Also got a quick sidenote, which spawned from seeing this:

This is pure gut feeling, but I suspect that "AI training" has become synonymous with "art theft/copyright infringement" in the public consciousness.

Between AI bros publicly scraping against people's wishes (Exhibit A, Exhibit B, Exhibit C), the large-scale theft of data which went to produce these LLMs' datasets, and the general perception that working in AI means you support theft (Exhibit A, Exhibit B), I wouldn't blame Joe Public for treating AI as inherently infringing.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I researched cool topics using ChatGPT, Claude, Google

That's not what research means, you embossed carbuncle.

I linked NotebookLM to the Wikipedia entry of each topic and generated the podcast audio

It's fucking James Somerton with extra steps!

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

Back in my day, you had to create your own kooky "evidence" for conspiracies.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago

The horror. Replacing the joy of looking into something and making your findings available in your own style to others replaced by autogenerated slop. And soon this will be all over the place, we will look back on the past period of low effort clickbait with nostalgia.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“curated”

it shouldn’t surprise me that the dipshit who was massively involved in “solving language” doesn’t understand the meaning of words, but grrrrr

(and I say that as an armchair linguist who understands that language is as people use it (fuck prescriptivism))

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

dipshit who was massively involved in “solving language”

"In the what now?", he said, voice trembling with a mixture of horror and excitement

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

2015 - I was a research scientist and a founding member at OpenAI.

proudly displayed on his blog timeline

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, did OpenAI claim somewhere they will "solve language"?

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago

no, that’s a personal extrapolation/framing characterising some of the shit I’ve seen from these morons

(they engaged with very few linguists in the making of their beloved Large Language Models, instead believing they can just data-bruteforce it; this plan gone as well as has been observed)

[–] khalid_salad@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

https://xcancel.com/karpathy/status/1841848120897912967#m

jfc

Edit: replaced screenshot of tweet + description with link to tweet

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

jesus christ, as if "podcasts" consisting of random idiots regurgitating wikipedia weren't bad enough as it is

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

aaaaaaaah

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's like he's purposefully trying to think as little as possible

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

thinking needs many strawberry reasoning tokens! maybe these grifters just aren't as rich as they portray

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

can't tell if serious

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

…..pwahahahaha

“if only you know” in the purest form I’ve seen all week

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aw man, now that's a blast from the past!

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago

with all the arch and OS fuckery, I've been starting to ponder what it'll take to run games in coming years

and all the shit locked in on steam....