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The same diego garcia us and UK ethnically cleanseased and then polluted?
The same where they tortured all the animals to death?
From That's When the Nightmare Started...
Great Behind the Bastards podcast on this whole story if you prefer audio.
Torturing the dogs isn't the same as torturing "all the animals." Obviously it's bad, but eliminating a non-native species is not nearly as bad as if they had, IDK, pulled an Enewetak and nuked all the coconut crabs or something like that.
Perhaps if the island was already abandoned and they were clearing solely feral dogs by humane means, that would be one thing.
The dogs were the most egregious killings as they were killed to terrorize the local population to leave "voluntarily." They were not the only animals killed, as the island was self sufficient before the militaries came. The livestock was also killed, as part of the process of getting people to leave was to starve them and letting them die of disease. The actual "marine protected area" was protected not to save animals, but to ban the locals from fishing. The islanders also had some of the dogs trained to help them catch fish.
By starving them and denying medical care, they would eventually ask to be taken to the mainland, where no one was allowed to return. They weren't able to take anything with them, and as the island had no outside communication, no one could send word back they were barred from returning home. Relatives had no clue what happened to anyone that left. The abandoned people were left in a country they had no familiarity, and left with only the clothes on their backs and no means to return home or even tell anyone they were alive or where to find them. They were former enslaved Africans and Indians who had won freedom and had a free society in a tropical paradise where they relied on no one but themselves, and they were kicked out of their second homeland to basically just have an old IOU cancelled.
The rounding up and killing of the animals in front of the residents could definitely be taken as implying "you're next" to former enslaved people.
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Yes, I know they rounded up and killed people's pets and abused the people and whatnot, and it's been a terrible abusive travesty. I've actually been aware of what happened to the Chagossians for years now, long before reading your comment.
My point was just that it was already plenty egregious and inhumane enough without exaggerating. When you say "all the animals" it makes it sound like they annihilated the entire ecosystem, which was within the realm of possibility (again: see Pacific nuclear testing) and therefore possible for someone to misinterpret as literal instead of hyperbole, but not actually what happened.