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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Cloudflare is such a weird company in various ways. Saying loudly that they can't judge groups when people ask them not to support the neo-nazis, harassers and worse (they have moved on this under pressure, but it takes a lot of pressure). But then they do this.

[–] FredFig@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wasn't the first time he shut down 8chan (or was it Kiwifarms? Something along the lines), he immediately came out to say "It's really bad that I have the power to take down a website of shitheads." Just seemed like everything about his ideology is confused.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago

Nobody told him to make his CDN so dominant in the market. He kinda chose to have this power. If you think Cloudflare's services are some kind of a universal inalienable right, make them free, you pussy. Be a philantropist, share that sweet bandwidth with the poor. Gimme a /24, coward. Why are you taking money for a basic necessity, you monster?

Y'all can thank me for taking down 8ch and KF, because I also do not run hosting infrastructure for either of them. Same goes to all of you who do not run a CDN that welcomes nazi websites. Thank you for your service.

[–] rook@awful.systems 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There’s nothing confused about his ideology. Anything to do with porn or sex work will get kicked to the curb without a second thought, but fascists and bigots will be defended up to the point where they try to restart sectarian violence in Ireland (which was the final act of kiwi farms, from recollection. Presumably even the ceo couldn’t defend them at that point, though I bet he tried).

Dude doesn’t give a shit about free speech, or lament the power he’s ended up with. He just really loves fascism.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 2 months ago

Anything to do with porn or sex work will get kicked to the curb without a second thought

can't say why but I can say this is not completely/100% true; however

but fascists and bigots will be defended up to the point where they try to restart sectarian violence

yup

please don't get me wrong, I'm not going to bat for cloudflare. the company is detestable and problematic in extremely many dimensions

in this particular case and wrt the dude himself, it indeed appears to be much about the power. in the case of the commentary FredFig references, I suspect that came through a lens of "it is bad that I can do this [where "this" is "acquiesce to societal pressure to silence people I don't wish to silence"]". didn't see the comment at the time though, so I have no idea if it was dogwhistled or what at the time

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I guess I should be clear this is not an endorsement of cloudflare, just fun to see dickheads being dickheads to each other

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn't take it as such, I just was again a bit confused by the actions cloudflare takes. Assume it is some weird technolibertarian thing.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And probably also an opportunity to dunk on Mullenweg for free PR

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

also it gives them even more network control and data, something entirely beneficial to them