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[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (34 children)

This is a real problem for renewables.

You don't get paid when the sun shines, and you don't get paid for when it does not.

You had to pay for building the solar panels and maintaining them. Corporate greed aside none sane would like their tax money either to be spent on producing electricity when it's not needed.

Next step for renewables must be storage that is cheap enough for it to beat having fossil fuel on standby.

[–] Kyoyeou 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel like energy storage has been the challenge since I learned what a computer is, it really is the 3rd wheel of the cab

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you passively produce more energy than what you actually need, that excess energy can be stored. And even if the stored energy won't be 100% efficient, it's still passively produced and can offset the peak hours consumption as needed.

We have a lot of energy storage solutions l, let's stop the fossi fuels subsidies and spend them on scaling power storage.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You have to build and maintain the storage.

Even if the electricity is free you'll have to replace your battery once in a while and at current prices that is ludicrously expensive.

It's cheaper to pay an already built fossil fuel plant to idle with spare capacity.

Give it a few years for battery technology and it may look different.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The problem is that the planet is burning right now, but we only talk in terms of profits.

Yeah the fossil fuels industry is "cheaper" because it has a shit ton of subsidies and does not include the environmental cost.

We have solutions that work right now that we could start to build and maintain while reducing/eliminating the most polluting sources of energy.

The solutions don't have to be perfect, they have to be better. And if your only argument is money, then fuck off.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

And if your only argument is money, then fuck off.

I agree with you on this sentiment, but it is still an obstacle we have to work around because a huge chunk of the world is going to make decisions based on money. But that’s what things like government subsidies are for.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It sounds like mummy still pays your bills. Troll grade: C-.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

This is trollception I guess.

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