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Salesforce invites a horse into the hospital (sfstandard.com)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by o7___o7@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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John Mulaney gets paid by prompt fondlers to tell jokes at a party. He spends 45 minutes telling them that they are idiots, which is nice.

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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 33 points 2 months ago (6 children)

“You’re a VP of customer success?” he asked another attendee. “Congratulations on your position that did not exist five years ago!”

Okay what the fuck is a "VP of customer success" though, that's a title so made up money laundering has to be involved, no?

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Customer success" has been creeping into biztalk lately. According to Ed Zitron it refers to that subspecies of salescritter that works with SaaS ~~victims~~customers to ensure they keep expanding their buying.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago

Basically, yeah. At my last job working in vendor support the "customer success" team was entirely sales-focused. Support (as in "my product isn't working as expected please help") was under a different department that would sometimes get badgered by the customer success guys if it seemed like a case was making it harder to upsell, or if the customer's problem was that they wanted to do something their current purchase didn't cover.

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 18 points 2 months ago

The industry called it “field engineering” previously, and “customer support” prior to that; renames happened every time the execs heard how this portion of their business is only a cost center and can easily be done by chat bots (to which the customer success people would say, good luck with that).

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's like how "marketing" became "UX research/design"

[–] joao@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Marketing has not become UX research/design, you can't possibly know what UX design is and say that.

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

Ok, you’ve convinced me

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 2 months ago

It's just support and upsell

[–] expr@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

Usually it's the part of the org that is directly interacting with big, corporate customers. Those customers can and often do directly shape how a product works. It's like a sales team, but focused on existing customers with big contracts (that might be expanded), rather than acquiring new customers.

But admittedly, this has just been my experience. I'm sure it's probably not universally true.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

in a startup model where product directly implements function requests from clients, it'd be the head of deciding which functions, sprints, priorities etc.

And/or ensuring that clients are handled well enough so they're not at risk of churn at the q3/q4 turnaround.