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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 119 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don’t like dishing on generational rants, but OMG the mobile device generation is every bit as lost as Boomers are when it comes to the actual functioning of their device or using a PC as an actual work device.

My kids have had a PC since they were four, they’re teens now and they still don’t get a lot of it, but when their friends come over they are absolutely clueless. Use an Xbox or Playstation? IPad? Sure! No problem! Anything beyond that they just give up.

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Technology needs to be actively taught and actively learned! If their school isn't teaching it, maybe try subscribing to some online tech literacy courses?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

That is absolutely an answer, but getting teens to take more classes after being done with school…? Good luck. The kids are issued chromebooks, that’s as much tech as they get.

I had my eldest help putting together her PC after she wanted to upgrade parts for her birthday. That’s promising, I think?

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It should be part of elementary/highschool, like it was for me and most gen Y.

I suffered through word editing, excel, ppt, email setup, etc. on 10 year old machines, and it gave the foundations for my studies and life later.

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

It seems to be a per-school kind of thing. I am late millennial/early Gen Z, and my school had computer classes where we learned how to use Windows and Microsoft office, how to touch type, the meaning of computer terminology, and what the functionalities are of basic computer parts (eg, "CPU is the brain of the computer"). And later on we started learning how to use Photoshop and Illustrator.

I'm always surprised when I hear that other people don't have that sort of in depth tech learning in their schools, and worse so, that some people don't even have computer class. It just always felt like what we learned in computer class was an essential skill

[–] dharmacurious 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like I'm about as computer savvy as most gen z. Born in 91, but we was poor, so it was the family dell (that I wasn't allowed to do much with*) until 2008, got my first laptop in 2009**, it broke almost immediately because poor and cheap, and then got my first smart phone (T-Mobile G1) in 2010, and basically didn't touch a laptop again until I started school 2020. I basically started over from scratch at that point, but now I run fedora full time and made myself learn some basic stuff, but I would consider myself pretty tech illiterate.

*Because my brother was caught looking at porn, so computer time was severely cut back. Then I was caught sending sexy messages to someone. And then the final nail in the coffin was when I tried to dual boot it with some Linux distro, I don't remember, borked it, and we had to wipe the hard drive

**Technically I had a netbook before this, in like 07/08, that I used Wubi to install Ubuntu on, and I loved that. But never got more than browser level into it.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Coding-wise I’d hazard that younger generations are on-par or better than my generation. But “jack of all trades” is probably more our wheelhouse.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Nope. We shed a lot of mentor-types in the great layoffs after Y2K, and a generation of nerds ran without any oral history and then taught that to their successors.

What they don't know they don't know is not only What best-practice is, but Why best-practice is. And there's little demonstrated effort to adhere.

I look over installation docs that do Very, VERY bad things, for instance. Build processes with no artifact validation, a toxic cargo chain, builds in prod, and so much more.

I can't blame the devs, as they didn't learn better. I blame the c-suites who canned the pricy experienced nerds who were also raising their successors properly.

Now we get to re-learn all that at great pain and hope to regain some of what we had before the next board of defectors guts another carefully-rebuilt culture of adequacy.