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The U.S. will send Ukraine an undisclosed number of medium-range cluster bombs and an array of rockets, artillery and armored vehicles in a military aid package totaling about $375 million, U.S. officials said Tuesday.

Officials expect an announcement on Wednesday, as global leaders meet at the U.N. General Assembly, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy uses his appearance there to shore up support and persuade the U.S. to allow his troops to use long-range weapon s to strike deeper into Russia. The following day, Zelenskyy meets with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris in Washington.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Okay, again, what would you suggest Ukraine do instead?

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

.ml want Ukraine to surrender. That's pretry much it.

They don't care about the people
They don't care about the US taxpayer's money
They don't care that the weapon companies profit

They just want russia to win.

"Having a discussion" is just smoke and mirrors with them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I know, but I like to give them enough rope...

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey if you care so much about the people of Ukraine why don't you go over there and fight so they don't have to be kidnapped off the street and forced to die at the front?

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok moron, post that on facebook

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've heard .ml are eating dogs and fucking bats. Giving everyone the ronies. I saw it on television.

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't care about ML. What I say is that this is NOT HELPING. It's MAKING A PROFIT on someone in need. Helping would be "I give you the weapons to defend yourself and we will pass the bill to Russia", not this.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don’t care about ML. What I say is that this is NOT HELPING. It’s MAKING A PROFIT on someone in need. Helping would be “I give you the weapons to defend yourself and we will pass the bill to Russia”, not this.

hence why we keep giving them massive loans. And sending them old equipment from our military, and sharing intelligence with them, and providing public media support for them as well.

War is more than just capital my friend.

“I give you the weapons to defend yourself and we will pass the bill to Russia”, not this.

also this is literally what europe is looking to do with their stockpile of frozen russian assets.

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

well then you'll just have to wait until this war is over i guess.

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah, that's mostly dependent on US aid going to ukraine though. Ukraine isn't going to take the easy path out of this one.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why are you pressing that question as if Ukraine is an independent actor?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because... they are? Unless you share Russia's opinion on the matter.

Why are you refusing to answer the question?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You can't refuse to answer a question that was never directed at you.

Unless you share Russia’s opinion on the matter.

The fact that Ukraine is a proxy state is spoken out loud by American politicians as well.

Kayfabe is for the kids.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The fact that Ukraine is a proxy state is spoken out loud by American politicians as well.

Please provide evidence for this supposed fact.

Also, Putin doesn't call it a proxy state, he calls it the homeland of the Russian people, which is why he's trying to make it part of Russia.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please provide evidence for this supposed fact.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosiegray/top-us-diplomat-fuck-the-eu

Here's an article that you've already had linked to you a thousand times you may hopefully incorporate into your worldview a decade later. The scandal here is that the US is hand picking their preferred puppet leader instead of letting the EU have a say.

Also, Putin doesn’t call it a proxy state

He did in his speech explaining why Russia invaded that I'm absolutely not shocked that you haven't read or listened to.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's an article from 2014. You might have missed a couple of administrations. Would you like to go back further? What did Eisenhower's top diplomat have to say about things?

And Putin also said it was the homeland of the Russian people, and I'm absolutely not shocked that you're not acknowledging that.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To assert the premise that Ukraine is a US puppet I linked you a news article about US diplomats hand picking their leader and you say it's disqualified because it's an article from when it happened.

You're just a profoundly unserious person.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm saying it's an article about a U.S. administration that hasn't been in power in a decade. You do understand that there's a whole new government every few years, yes?

Also, you have yet to acknowledge what Putin said, so your insult (which is against our community rules and I advise you not to do it again) about me not being serious is a bit odd.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So you just go around acting like a condescending asshole while you say the dumbest shit possible, then threaten people when you get pushback, huh?

The shithole community you've cultivated is downstream of your own personal failings.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Then I guess you don't need to stay here any longer. I'll show you the door.