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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Twitter massively reduced visibility for logged-out users, so just logging out doesn't help, you have to log into a different account. This additional fraction reduces the amount of harassment a lot. Not sure that being "more honest" is worth the price, especially when an info box could achieve the same without making harassment easier.

[–] FJW@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Twitter massively reduced visibility for logged-out users,

I know, but it still didn’t fully remove it.

Not sure that being “more honest” is worth the price

The thing is that there really is no price, nor was there ever one. Your suggestion that you think there is demonstrates that the way blocking worked gave people dangerously wrong ideas. It’s about being clear to people what they can and cannot expect. Anything else is ACTUALLY dangerous.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I know, but it still didn’t fully remove it.

Sure, but it doesn't have to be fully removed to have an effect.

The thing is that there really is no price, nor was there ever one. Your suggestion that you think there is demonstrates that the way blocking worked gave people dangerously wrong ideas.

Sorry, but you don't get to redefine how humans work. There is a price, because friction reduces the likelihood of people following through. Removing that friction increases the likelihood of people following through. You might not want to believe this to be the case, but please read studies on the topic - it's just how humans work. You don't get to dismiss negative effects because you don't believe in them.

[–] FJW@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The argument here is literally about stalkers. Not about random uninterested people that don’t care.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

No, it's not just about stalkers, it's about harassment in general. But even if it were, even stalkers are still people and don't work fundamentally different.

Feel free to show any research proving me wrong, but unless you find any, the reasonable position is "humans work the same on this topic as on others".

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