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[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

We don’t need to start from Hobbes to understand that, as a society, punishing dangerous drivers is a good thing.

There is a lot of good reading out there. I recommend this as a starting point when coming to an understanding of violence and society.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_(Hobbes_book)

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We don’t need to start from Hobbes

Recommends Hobbes as a starting point

I agree 100% but just had a bit of a giggle

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

lol. I realized that as I was writing that. But I went with it. Hobbes is a great starting point for people new to political philosophy.

We just don’t need to start with him.

I think John Rawls is a better starting place if we were to start a society from scratch. Just a bit harder for people less used to reading philosophical works.

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but if simply keeping the roads safe was their only objective, they wouldn't have things like quotas where they have to shake down a certain number of people for the sake of their budget.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That depends a lot on the quota system. If they're easily achievable then it's not going to incentivize bad stops. If you have a county that gets four cars a day and the quota is four cars then there's a problem. Generally it's a useful way to make sure your police aren't sitting at the donut shop while they should be working. Like most policies its problems lie in the extremes.