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I'll be honest a big motivation for posting this is to try to get feminist men active in a dedicated community on Lemmy. Currently there's !mensliberation@lemmy.ca but it's fairly inactive. Trying to give it a bit of a jump start so if anybody feels like that's something they would benefit from please check it out! Also if anybody knows of a similar community with more activity please let me know.
It's been on our radar for a bit, but for reasons likely outlined in this video (haven't had a chance to watch it yet) there's often issues with online men's lib spaces needing additional moderation to help ensure they don't get invaded by bad actors who are sexist or incel. We'll likely launch a space like this eventually, but it just hasn't been the right time yet.
I can't imagine creating a men's rights community on the Internet today. It just seems like it would instantly be filled with... well... men's right's activists.
In many ways I think the problem is identical to "white rights activists." Men-ness (and white-ness) are created by contrast to other groups and their liberation and political progress, not because of an internal group identity that already exists. That is to say, a men's liberation group would be created in response to women creating women's liberation groups -- it can never escape its fate of being a reaction and an opposition. Unfortunately, "menninism" will always be about feminism, and that conversation usually turns pretty dark.
I agree with Natalie that it would be great if this weren't true or men could articulate a clear concept of masculinity that was not: toxic, patriarchal, or a reaction against feminism. I just don't know what it could possibly be that wouldn't escape that fate.
i frequented r/menslib and it was actually fairly leftist and clear about the ways that traditional concepts of patriarchy often disadvantages men and encourages inclusivity and talking about mental health. it certainly takes more intentionality, but i think they do it pretty well.