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That's a big part of the problem. Ethnostates and theocracies are invariably oppressive towards any inhabitants who are not of the dominant ethnicity or religion. Israel is no exception and shouldn't be treated as one.
An Apartheid state, which a formalized ethnostate by definition is, is inherently anti democratic and opposed to the self determination of everyone except the ruling people. Self determination through oppression of others is never and will never be legitimate.
That's not comparable and you know it. Nationalism without a nation is an ambition. Ethno-nationalism while in control of a nation containing other peoples is oppression and, in extreme cases like the South Africa of the past and present day Israel, Apartheid.
But to answer the question you thought you asked: yes, I am against the violently theocratic government philosophy of Hamas.
Arab doesn't equal Palestinian and Palestinian doesn't equal Arab. To conflate the two is bigotry and ignorance.
That's not true. Especially not when you count the settlers living on stolen land inside the West Bank and planning to do the same in Gaza.
They by definition CAN'T be because Palestine doesn't have any citizens. Because it's occupied territory denied nationhood by its occupiers, Israel.
Jewish people in general? Yes. Jewish (or Christian, or Muslim etc) SETTLERS stealing their land on behalf of an occupying force, though? That's another kettle of ballgames entirely.
"Settling" land already owned by someone else is colonialism and theft, not peaceful coexistence.
It's not Palestinian citizenship when it's still Israel who determines who is eligible.
"If you're opposed to minority rule, then I hope you're also opposed to majority rule." What? Simply give everyone in the region equal voting rights, as is their right as human beings, and the resulting state would be a Palestinian one.
I'd definitely be against a hypothetical Palestinian ethnostate, but that doesn't exist so it doesn't really seem relevant. We're discussing an ethnostate that actually does exist, which sucks. Can we keep on that topic?
I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you under the false impression that an ethnostate is a state in which only one group is allowed to exist and all others are killed on sight?
The 20% of non-Jewish citizens of Israel are second-class citizens living under the oppressive rule of an ethnostate which explicitly primarily serves the interests of their ethno-religious ruling class.
I don't know anything about the structure of the government of Denmark or Poland but I will say that I don't have a particularly positive view of their societies or peoples from what little I have seen to judge them by. What is the point of this latest non-sequitur? Are you capable of speaking on the topic at hand or do you only ever reply with left field references to other existing things or hypothetical things that do not exist?
Bullshit
https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution
That's more bullshit
This is apartheid, not just discrimination.