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More than a dozen former Ronald Reagan staff members have joined dozens of other Republican figures endorsing the Democratic nominee and vice-president, Kamala Harris, saying their support was “less about supporting the Democratic party and more about our resounding support for democracy”.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They're alienating people who hate Reagan.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Are they? The campaign is not speaking in support of the Reagan administration. Harris is supported by the former administration over a corrupt and narcissistic megalomaniac.

Personally, I don’t see this as anything other than validation that Trump is that bad.

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago

over a corrupt and narcissistic megalomaniac.

boy I hate to tell you this, but you're not escaping that by voting for the democrats. the establishment parties are personifications of all of the worst vices and cruelties of the imperialist capitalist class of war mongers, racketeers, and liars which keep the globe under their boot with 800+ bipartisan military bases and CIA blacksite torture camps, and bipartisan Hunger Plans and bipartisan competing to see who can do more genocide faster.

Biden's such a corrupt narcissistic megalomaniac he wouldn't even step down while his brain was visibly leaking from his ears his own party including the speaker of the house (also being one of the most corrupt, narcissistic megalomaniacs in congress) was demanding he do so. He only did when the billionaire imperialists that finance the democrats (and who they work for, who both parties work for) pulled their funding.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you get endorsed by Hitler it reflects pretty badly on you.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Putin endorsed Biden, and now Harris. Do you honestly think that he wants Democrats in charge during his invasion of Ukraine? Politics is a game.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right, his endorsement doesn't help. That's my point? Liberals shouldn't be cheering because Reaganites endorsed Harris.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Who said Liberals were cheering? This is aimed at disenfranchised conservatives.

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

"disenfranchised conservatives" he says

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I live in NY. It’s a blue state with ~3M Republicans. Most of the ones I know are only in it for financial reasons (large portfolios, business owners, etc.). They voted for Trump in his first term, and are very reluctant to vote for him again. There are more of them than you think.

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

that is not what "disenfranchised" means at all. These people are business owners with large portfolios?? They are objectively some of the most enfranchised people in the country. They're literally sitting on their thumbs in their bathtubs of money deciding which genocidaire would be better for their wallets? How is this a disenfranchised population? This is objectively the opposite. Fuck them.

Anyone catering to these very enfranchised sociopaths for votes, rather than to (and while actively repressing and brow-beating) those who are demanding an end to the bipartisan US-financed and US-armed genocide in Palestine, and rather than to the huge portion of actual left-wing voters and poor working class voters who are moving to 3rd parties or among the 35-50% who have stopped voting because of how actually disenfranchised and abandoned by this imperialist-corporate-conglomerate pretending to be two different parties they are


anyone catering to the former group instead of the latter two groups is my enemy

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

The liberals cheering is what told me the liberals where cheering. I mean ... Haris even gloated that Ronald Reagon himself would vote for her.

as for disenfranchised conservitives, this is a group that does not exist, like both halvs of the uniparty pander to the conservitive.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Do you think conservatives read The Guardian? This is for internal consumption, to make liberals think "wow even Reaganites are on our side, we must be doing something right!"

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The Guardian is a newspaper. They are just covering the news.

Other outlets are covering this also, including conservative ones.

You are way too eager to find a conspiracy here... I promise you, this British newspaper isn't run by and for American Democrats.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

no one is saying that is, but what queermunist is doing that you are failing to do is annilise the bias of the source, and consider the reasons for why they wrote something and the way they wrote it ... this is basic media literacy

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

There's no conspiracy? This is just liberals telling other liberals about the "good news"

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[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean I am not saying that his endorsement is a good sign, however I see no reason not to trust his endorsement on face value. It seems to be more work and more conspericy boarding to say that this is some 7d chess to get trump back when there are reasons he would want a haris win

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you aware that the Republicans in Congress refused to vote in favor of Ukraine aid? Democrats had to add Israel to the bill to get them to agree.

Putin wants Trump. It’s not a question which party is on his side.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You keep talking domestic policy, but you have not given a reason on why Putin cannot be trusted on his endorsement. You are also missing the point that trump is a less stable commander in cheif, and may oppose Russian intrests elsewhere not just ukraine

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -1 points 19 hours ago

He’s spent more time in private with Putin, sometimes refusing recording, more than any other President.

I doubt he’s planning on putting wrinkles in ol’ Vladimir’s panties.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (16 children)

That's a good question, but I think Putin's being honest. Trump is more likely to try to negotiate a peace deal, but if that goes badly, he's also much more likely to order some off-the-wall shit like giving Ukraine ICBMs and permission to use them. Remember this was the guy who was presented with a range of options to retaliate against Iranian sabre-rattling, and for seemingly no reason chose the most extreme, drone striking their top general! There's lots of reason to not want Trump in charge.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I read it as the neoliberal warhawks are enthusiastic about a more level-headed maintainer of Empire who has promised the most lethal military in the world and to always support Israel.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, the President does more than determine support for Israel.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Yep, but the part that specifically draws the Reaganite fascists to Kamala is her promise to maintain the most lethal military in the world. Forever wars and endless profits for the MIC, endless support for Imperialism.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Having read about Hitler's meeting with the military heads that line was bonechilling when she said it

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[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago

I mean... yes... there are quite a few reasons I would not feel good voting for harris but there are 3 reasons I cannot in good contious vote for her, the first is the endorsments from Bush and Cheney, the second is this Reagon Endorsement, the third is she has publicly talked about class colaberation.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

What are they going to do about it?

Please say campaign for electoral reform in their respective states.

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