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[–] Juice@midwest.social 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Democrats should ask themselves why Republicans are more worried about imaginary communists than actual Democrats

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is this a genuine comment? Or some n-th level joke I'm too normie understand?

Because it reads to me like you're trying to redirect a tired, Comservative refrain that anything politically Left of Reagonomics is Communism (which hails back to the Cold War and the Red Scare) into some dogwhistle admission by the GOP that they are the same as the DNP and are, in fact, actually worried about Communists.

Which sounds ridiculous.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dog whistle admission? No I don't think that republicans and democrats believe they are the "same" and I don't think that communists believe that GOP and dems believe that about themselves. Some young online communists might believe that Republicans and democrats are the same, since they are both capitalist parties, but that's kind of a coarse analysis and I don't think its great messaging.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Then I'll have to ask you what the original comment meant as you've denied the only obvious take I could read from it.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Seems to me like they're simply implying that the GOP knows they can't beat Democrats on policy so they create this Communist Strawman to scare their constituents. It's pretty basic GOP SOP.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Republicans aren't afraid of democrats because dems aren't a threat to republican power. Republican policy threatens the lives of millions of women, children, bipoc, lgbtq+, etc., but dems can only stave off the worst abuses, such as a second trump term (they'd better be able to, so far looks like he's cooked) or launch a campaign once the rights have been taken away. And yes its true, republicans and democrats get funding from many of the same sources, democrats have even funded goofball republicans they thought would be easier to defeat (see desantis, trump). Republicans have nothing to fear from a democrat. I am wishing that democrats were more self reflective of these reasons and many others; but rather than do an ounce of self reflection "the only obvious" take you could get made no sense. Its sadly quite telling, as to how otherwise good, intelligent people are able to believe and adhere to the nonexistent "back to brunch" political program of the democrats.

Hope that clarifies my perspective for you a smidge

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No it doesn't, it doesn't clarify anything. So far you've completely avoided anything that the other person brought up. You haven't established what your point actually is, you've just gone on and on and I can't tell if you're trying to suggest that Dems are unaware that Reps create strawmen or you actually believe that Reps should be afraid of communists.

Neither make sense. I don't know what you're trying to say, and I'm a third party - please help me.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Well friend maybe I'm just not the right teacher for you

[–] towerful@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's probably the whole "yeh, still capitalism. Still big oil. Still big pharma. Still genocide and world-police".
And you show that Dems are better on all those things. But because Dems don't fully SOLVE 4/4 of them, it doesn't matter who you vote for because you still get fucked.

It's bullshit.
Dems have more social benefit policies and track record of social improvements than reps.
ACA, vet funding/care, insulin etc pricing, student loans. Hopefully things like unions, but idk if I have been caught up in propaganda that Dems don't care about unions.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's a desperate list. Student loans, eh?

The only real form of vet care is abolishing imperialism and the military.