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Dislike both candidates? Thinking of sitting this election out? Consider this... (www.lgbtqnation.com)

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I sat out the 1972 election between Nixon and Humphrey. Many sat out 2000 and 2016 elections. Here are the consequences.

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[–] houseofleft 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think that's a really strong argument for voting with choice you have, not the one you should have.

It makes me sad to hear you say voting Greens "weighs heavy" on you though! Democracy often isn't as strong as it should be, and people are forced between supporting candidates they dislike, or accepting their vote won't count, but that isn't your fault!

This article is a really good think piece on how to vote. But if people choose to vote for neither of the two major candidates, I really hope nodody feels bad about it. The system sucks, not the voters!

[–] atearinspace 4 points 2 days ago

I think that’s a really strong argument for voting with choice you have, not the one you should have.

Not too long ago I would have agreed with you. At this point though, I have come to the realization that the 2 party state can't be beat simply by a small percentage of people voting with their conscience. As noble as it is, we just can't win that way. It's going to take some real organization to win the privilege of being able to vote with our conscience and having a real chance to make change. We are going to have to change the system by doing more than just voting for a 3rd party.

It makes me sad to hear you say voting Greens “weighs heavy” on you though! Democracy often isn’t as strong as it should be, and people are forced between supporting candidates they dislike, or accepting their vote won’t count, but that isn’t your fault!

I may be being too hard on myself and I appreciate your perspective here. We really are stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to elections and "democracy" in this country. The consequences are real, though. When I see that many women now have to travel to other states to get an abortion or be forced to have a child they didn't want it's hard to not feel some responsibility. I don't want to wallow in it, though. I want to help bring about some real change. To me, that means doing what I can to do some harm reduction come election time, but then organizing beyond that to make something better. Continuing on our current path is just not sustainable.