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Heat pump water heaters already exist. These are hybrid things where a traditional electric water heater is fitted with a heat pump. The heat pump can increase the water temp but cannot deliver enough, so heating elements are still needed to reach a usable temp.

I’m wondering if that design can be improved on this way: instead of powering the heat pump from the wall, the heat pump can be connected directly to a PV. I think that would be more efficient and cheaper because PV output is not normally directly usable. IIUC, it’s variable D/C which must be regulated and/or inverted to A/C involving more hardware, conversion, and waste. But exceptionally, I’ve heard that a PV can directly power a compressor with no middleware. Any reasons this would be infeasible or uninteresting?

Of course the tank still needs wall power for the heating elements, but would use less wall power and entail less conversion loss.

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[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s just easier to have all your home run on AC.

Nice point.

If all appliances had a DC mode, or even an AC+DC mode ^[smells of inefficiency, but I didn't do the maths] by default, this would be something worth working up for.
But if you are doing it just for a single appliance, guess it's better to just connect the Solar power output to your AC grid, the way others do.

Also, solar water heaters seem to be more efficient in this regard ^[no PV, larger spectrum used (even IR) and directly converted to heat, instead of light -> electric -> heat], so if your use case is only water heating, just add that next to your overhead tank, and let the heat pump work separately.