There is a correlation but please don't draw the same conclusion as that one weird guy who has 12 children and ran out of pronounceable names that include his favorite letter.

[–] RustyEarthfire@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

India is like 18% of the world population, so it becoming an autocracy explains most of the population swing.

[–] red@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

what? when did india become autocracy?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's sliding that way, thanks to radical Hindu nationalists, but I'm not sure how it actually got recorded in this data.

[–] red@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"radical Hindu nationalist" get back to reddit, you only belong to echo chambers

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that's how guys like RSS would self-identify. A Hindu Rashtra (ethnostate) is their stated goal, and the marching and paramilitary activity make me skeptical they would say "we're just moderate".

[–] red@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

they are not even close to being as radical as you think omg, even if they are it still has nothing to do with india being autocracy. i said that because this has nothing to do with india being autocracy

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And see, that's where you can actually get me. I don't follow Indian politics that closely, I don't know off the top of my head what exactly the mainstream NGOs are talking about when they mention the autocratic shift under the BJP. Maybe you can add some context.

It looks like it still rates still rates as a flawed democracy at this point, to be clear. Even groups openly hostile to democracy, which the BJP isn't to my knowledge, can take many years to accomplish the shift to autocracy, because norms don't die overnight.

[–] red@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

just so you know, in democracy index india is just slightly below usa and yes even usa is considered flawed democracy here and yeah I hope you realise you were seriously biased against India and idk why

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The US political system is on the brink of failing. That's not a brag.

You seem biased too, probably because you're in the picture.

[–] red@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

again like i said, I'm not bragging i told that because no one think us is a autocracy but you somehow thought india is.

[–] turmoil@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Modi is really trying his best by constructing a god-cult around his persona, building up paramilitary forces and stoking hindunationalistic pogroms. The classic autocracy/fascism setup if you will.

[–] red@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

"building up paramilitary forces and stroking Hindu nationalist pogroms" where are your sources, that's just straight up bs. modi got less seats in 2024 election than he did previously, and bjp didn't even get majority, how is that a autocratic government

[–] RustyEarthfire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's typically not an instant thing. Below is the description from page 25 of the pdf linked by OP, from which the charts were taken; I have highlighted some mentioned timeframes. There is also a graph on page 24 showing the change over time.

India’s process of autocratization begins in earnest from 2008 and characteristically proceeded in the incremental, slow-moving fashion of the “third wave”. Over the years, India’s autocratization process has been well documented, including gradual but substantial deterioration of freedom of expression, compromising independence of the media, crackdowns on social media, harassments of journalists critical of the government, as well as attacks on civil society and intimidation of the opposition. The ruling anti-pluralist, Hindu-nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) with Prime Minister Modi at the helm has for example used laws on sedition, defamation, and counterterrorism to silence critics. The BJP government undermined the constitution’s commitment to secularism by amending the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act (UAPA) in 2019. The Modi-led government also continues to suppress the freedom of religion rights. Intimidation of political opponents and people protesting government policies, as well as silencing of dissent in academia are now prevalent. India dropped down to electoral autocracy in 2018 and remains in this category by the end of 2023.

[–] red@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

oh boy, a bunch of bs that's supported by nothing. if India is in autocracy category then that whole data is invalid for me. tell me source of any one claim from here just one

[–] RustyEarthfire@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

tell me source of any one claim

The report provides sources, as well as its criteria and methodology. If you are interested in facts, you may find them there.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The more educated the people are the more likely they are to support democracy. However the fertility rate goes down with education.