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[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (10 children)

If you are going to make alcohol consumption a bar to a liver transplant without making alcohol illegal you should all go fuck yourselves. You had a drink and you should die should not be a thing.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

This isn't what happened though. She was addicted to alcohol, per her partner, got diagnosed with needing a new liver, she immediately quit alcohol, and they denied her anyway even though quite a bit of time had passed while she was sober. I am unaware if her liver disease was because of the previous regular alcohol use. It wasn't just 1 drink though.

Yes, organ donation is messed up. I met a girl dying in hospice once. She needed a new kidney. Genetic stuff, and then when she was 15 she tried to kill herself with Tylenol. She got her first transplant before the suicide attempt. She was denied a second one due to the suicide attempt itself. There are only so many organs in the world. She died in agony in hospice, young and covered in calcium deposits.

We punish substance use and mental health so harshly in this country. No one deserves the death penalty for previous substance use, especially for alcohol which is ancient af. It's horrible she was denied when there was a liver already available.

[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

From my limited knowledge organ donation criteria are horribly restrictive on a personal scale but unfortunately make sense on the macro scale. Organs are such a scarce resource that as I understand there's no other option.

This girl's death was undoubtedly a tragedy, but as fucked up it's to say if she lived someone else would probably die in a similar agony. Was she treated fairly - I don't know, can we make this system better - I unfortunately also don't know.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One easy way would be to make organ donation opt out instead of opt in. As in, if you do nothing, you're an organ donor if you end up brain-dead, and if you don't want to, you have to explicitly opt out. Alternatively, we could just say any brain-dead person may have their organs harvested, regardless of what they declared while still alive. After all, you don't need the organs anymore once you're brain-dead. (I'm specifying brain-dead, because if you're completely dead, then the organs are also useless)

That would help to some extent with scarcity in opt-in countries. But there are already opt-out countries which still face the same dilemma. Because if you're even one organ short how do you fairly decide who's gonna die... Can you even fairly decide about someone's life and death...

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